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Mayor of Venus posted 30-09-100 03:38 ET (US)
I'm re-reading "A Little Something Special" in Gladstone's Adventurous US #2, March 1998.
I'm very puzzled by the half-page panel on page 8. I understand the pig-faced mystery sponser is Glomgold disguised by Magica's transmutation wand. Then to his right, we see from the back Daisy, Grandma, Gladstone, Gyro, and Gyro's helper sitting in green chairs. Then we see an old duck next to Helper, with glasses like Scrooge's, and sideburns that look higher than Scrooge's. Who is he? Scrooge is still back at the Money Bin, as the mystery sponsor says the Mayor has gone to secort him from the bin to the stage. I can't imagine who this old duck could be. Don Rosa never uses Ludwig von Drake, but who else could he be? Grandma Duck's husband Humperdink died a long time ago, I believe, and his picture on the Duck family tree has no glasses or sideburns. Maybe Grandma's son Eider? Again, his picture on the Duck family tree looks nothing like the old duck in the splash panel. Anyone have any ideas who this is? He's not seen on any other panel in this story.
Wouter posted 30-09-100 13:28 ET (US)
I am very sure it's Ludwig von Drake. Don Rosa like's this caracter, but Egmont doesn't let him use it.
But Don saw a change to put him here, I guess, just like he likes to put hidden Mickeys on some places. I myself never had a doubt it wasn't Ludwig von Drake, because it's just how he looks (or Magica also used her spell on another just like she did on Glimgold, but that doesn't help the plot).
Madame Comic Collector posted 30-09-100 18:30 ET (US)
I coulda told you that! :p
Mayor of Venus posted 04-10-100 12:36 ET (US)
Thanks Wouter & Madame Comic Collector. I never knew Don Rosa ever gave a thought to Ludwig von Drake. This story sure is packed with a large cast of characters --- 3 old make ducks and 3 old female ducks and many others. Grandma, Miss Quackfaster (also known as Miss Typefast) and Glittering Goldie all look somewhat alike. Goldie's not so thin as first drawn by Barks when she was living in Scrooge's old cabin near Agony Creek ---that's good to see she's in better shape. I'd like to see all the references on the Barks' reference webpage, but it's still not working right for me. I noticed that Grandpa Beagle's number is the same as in Barks' "Money Well" story; 186-802. But Scrooge also called him Blackheart Beagle; wasn't he in Barks' Mississippi Riverboat story in the Disneyland comicbook---they're one and the same character?
Mayor of Venus posted 04-10-100 22:09 ET (US)
No! I just checked Barks' story "The Fantastic River Race". Blackheart Beagle in that story is the father of the Beagle Boys, not the grandfather. But Don Rosa's character seems to be an older version of this Blackheart Beagle, complete with his captain's cap. He is, however, wearing the same clothes and prison number as Grandpa Beagle from the Money Well story. And in Rosa's story Blackheart has been a Duckburg resident, as Grandpa of the Money Well story had been. So I'm confused; am I confused because Don Rosa was confused?
Madame Comic Collector posted 05-10-100 16:08 ET (US)
Dear Your Excellentcy Mayor of Venus,
I like the way Mr. Rosa drew Goldie better than Mr.Barks,Mr.Barks makes it looks like she was hangin' on her last thread! Then again she probably was having financial problems before the gold cache was found.
I have never read the 'The fantastic River Boat Race', but I think Black Heart Beagle and Grandpa are the same. You know the Beagle Boys Scrooge is fighting now?
Well in Don Rosa's 'Master of the Mississippi' he fights Black Heart Beagle and his sons.
The Beagles Scrooge is warding off are Black Heart's grandson's.
I don't really know if that is the answer to the question you were asking, but that's all I could think of.
madame comic collector
--READ COMICS AND BE HAPPY!--
Wouter posted 07-10-100 20:24 ET (US)
I agree.
In "Life of Scrooge" 2 and ten, Scrooge is fighting Blackheart Beagle and his sons. At the end of 10, Blackheart says he will need more people to take Scrooge's money, so they will have to procreate. In LO$ 12, Scrooge first meats the grandsons.
Mayor of Venus posted 08-10-100 02:27 ET (US)
Wouter & Madame Comic Collector: Thanks again. I haven't re-read the Life of Scrooge; I was saving that until I re-read all the other Rosa stories. I started Masters of the Mississippi, and saw it summarized Barks' Wild Riverboat story at the end exactly. The puzzling thing is Blackheart Beagle's 3 sons start in Rosa's stories without prison numbers. Near the end they go to prison (for the first time?), and come out with prison numbers which are 3 of the well-known Beagle Boy numbers (like 176-617). So somehow those same numbers were passed down from Blackheart's 3 sons to 3 of his grandsons? I'll have to re-read Life of Scrooge #10 and #12, then; maybe this mystery is clarified there. Seems like we need a family tree for Beagle Boys, and maybe the Gearloose family, too. I remember seeing some stories with "Beagle Brats" although these stories were not by Don Rosa, or Barks.
Henrik posted 18-06-103 14:10 ET (US)
I'm also pretty sure it's Ludwig.
After all, Don did use him in "The Pied Piper of Duckburg"
DuckLady posted 17-01-106 15:08 ET (US)
What was Egmont's problem with Ludwig von Drake, anyway? He wouldn't let Rosa feature him in the McDuck 'family tree', and even declared Ludwig 'dead'. Oy, editors!

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Author	Topic: Scrooge Look-Alike in "Little Something Special"
Mayor of Venus	posted 30-09-100 03:38 ET (US) I'm re-reading "A Little Something Special" in Gladstone's Adventurous US #2, March 1998. I'm very puzzled by the half-page panel on page 8. I understand the pig-faced mystery sponser is Glomgold disguised by Magica's transmutation wand. Then to his right, we see from the back Daisy, Grandma, Gladstone, Gyro, and Gyro's helper sitting in green chairs. Then we see an old duck next to Helper, with glasses like Scrooge's, and sideburns that look higher than Scrooge's. Who is he? Scrooge is still back at the Money Bin, as the mystery sponsor says the Mayor has gone to secort him from the bin to the stage. I can't imagine who this old duck could be. Don Rosa never uses Ludwig von Drake, but who else could he be? Grandma Duck's husband Humperdink died a long time ago, I believe, and his picture on the Duck family tree has no glasses or sideburns. Maybe Grandma's son Eider? Again, his picture on the Duck family tree looks nothing like the old duck in the splash panel. Anyone have any ideas who this is? He's not seen on any other panel in this story.
Wouter	posted 30-09-100 13:28 ET (US) I am very sure it's Ludwig von Drake. Don Rosa like's this caracter, but Egmont doesn't let him use it. But Don saw a change to put him here, I guess, just like he likes to put hidden Mickeys on some places. I myself never had a doubt it wasn't Ludwig von Drake, because it's just how he looks (or Magica also used her spell on another just like she did on Glimgold, but that doesn't help the plot).
Madame Comic Collector	posted 30-09-100 18:30 ET (US) I coulda told you that! :p
Mayor of Venus	posted 04-10-100 12:36 ET (US) Thanks Wouter & Madame Comic Collector. I never knew Don Rosa ever gave a thought to Ludwig von Drake. This story sure is packed with a large cast of characters --- 3 old make ducks and 3 old female ducks and many others. Grandma, Miss Quackfaster (also known as Miss Typefast) and Glittering Goldie all look somewhat alike. Goldie's not so thin as first drawn by Barks when she was living in Scrooge's old cabin near Agony Creek ---that's good to see she's in better shape. I'd like to see all the references on the Barks' reference webpage, but it's still not working right for me. I noticed that Grandpa Beagle's number is the same as in Barks' "Money Well" story; 186-802. But Scrooge also called him Blackheart Beagle; wasn't he in Barks' Mississippi Riverboat story in the Disneyland comicbook---they're one and the same character?
Mayor of Venus	posted 04-10-100 22:09 ET (US) No! I just checked Barks' story "The Fantastic River Race". Blackheart Beagle in that story is the father of the Beagle Boys, not the grandfather. But Don Rosa's character seems to be an older version of this Blackheart Beagle, complete with his captain's cap. He is, however, wearing the same clothes and prison number as Grandpa Beagle from the Money Well story. And in Rosa's story Blackheart has been a Duckburg resident, as Grandpa of the Money Well story had been. So I'm confused; am I confused because Don Rosa was confused?
Madame Comic Collector	posted 05-10-100 16:08 ET (US) Dear Your Excellentcy Mayor of Venus, I like the way Mr. Rosa drew Goldie better than Mr.Barks,Mr.Barks makes it looks like she was hangin' on her last thread! Then again she probably was having financial problems before the gold cache was found. I have never read the 'The fantastic River Boat Race', but I think Black Heart Beagle and Grandpa are the same. You know the Beagle Boys Scrooge is fighting now? Well in Don Rosa's 'Master of the Mississippi' he fights Black Heart Beagle and his sons. The Beagles Scrooge is warding off are Black Heart's grandson's. I don't really know if that is the answer to the question you were asking, but that's all I could think of. madame comic collector --READ COMICS AND BE HAPPY!--
Wouter	posted 07-10-100 20:24 ET (US) I agree. In "Life of Scrooge" 2 and ten, Scrooge is fighting Blackheart Beagle and his sons. At the end of 10, Blackheart says he will need more people to take Scrooge's money, so they will have to procreate. In LO$ 12, Scrooge first meats the grandsons.
Mayor of Venus	posted 08-10-100 02:27 ET (US) Wouter & Madame Comic Collector: Thanks again. I haven't re-read the Life of Scrooge; I was saving that until I re-read all the other Rosa stories. I started Masters of the Mississippi, and saw it summarized Barks' Wild Riverboat story at the end exactly. The puzzling thing is Blackheart Beagle's 3 sons start in Rosa's stories without prison numbers. Near the end they go to prison (for the first time?), and come out with prison numbers which are 3 of the well-known Beagle Boy numbers (like 176-617). So somehow those same numbers were passed down from Blackheart's 3 sons to 3 of his grandsons? I'll have to re-read Life of Scrooge #10 and #12, then; maybe this mystery is clarified there. Seems like we need a family tree for Beagle Boys, and maybe the Gearloose family, too. I remember seeing some stories with "Beagle Brats" although these stories were not by Don Rosa, or Barks.
Henrik	posted 18-06-103 14:10 ET (US) I'm also pretty sure it's Ludwig. After all, Don did use him in "The Pied Piper of Duckburg"
DuckLady	posted 17-01-106 15:08 ET (US) What was Egmont's problem with Ludwig von Drake, anyway? He wouldn't let Rosa feature him in the McDuck 'family tree', and even declared Ludwig 'dead'. Oy, editors!